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December 22, 2014
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Fedora 21 Workstation – 2014 predictions revisited0:08:50 News
Announcing Fedora 21
Fedora 21 so popular on release day, it’s overloading all things Fedora
High traffic on the package repositories for Linux Mint 17.1
Trinity Desktop Environment R14.0.0 Released
Fact of the day: Some 45% of Americans say they or a household member have been notified by a credit card company, financial institution or retailer that their credit card information had possibly been stolen as part of a data breach
An extensive set of X.org vulnerabilities
‘Critical’ security bugs dating back to 1987 found in X Window
Powerful, highly stealthy Linux trojan may have infected victims for years
The ‘Penquin’ Turla
12 Million Home Routers Vulnerable to Takeover
Mozilla to Support Certificate Transparency in Firefox (what is CT?)
Marking HTTP As Non-Secure
Google Proposes Marking ‘HTTP’ as Insecure in 2015
Freescale enables wireless charging for tablets and other large gadgets
Google’s surprise: ODF support launches ahead of schedule
BitTorrent launches invite-only alpha of Project Maelstrom, the first torrent-based browser
Project Maelstrom detailed: More info about BitTorrent’s vision for a peer-to-peer web
Researchers Make Bittorrent Anonymous And Impossible To Shut Down
Heads up! If Tor VANISHES over the weekend, this is why
Canonical clarify Unity 8 desktop experience expectations
Always visible menus hopefully to return for Unity in 15.04
Shuttleworth announces new Snappy Ubuntu Core
UT One Ubuntu Tablet Delayed; Rooted Android Device May Come Instead
Indiegogo campaign for VirtKick, a 100% Open Source orchestration setup similar to the likes of Digital Ocean; interview with one of the founders
Securing the future of GnuPG
Andromium launch a Kickstarter for their ‘desktop on Android’ platform
1:01:37 Fedora 21 Workstation First Impressions
You’ve probably heard talk of Fedora 21 incessantly on every other Linux podcast you listen to over the last couple of weeks. But this genuinely is a major release, so we felt duty bound to take a quick look. Our verdict? Surprisingly positive, despite the Anaconda installer remaining a test of intelligence totally at variance with the lack of nous needed to drive Fedora’s desktop of choice.
A huge thank you to SonOfNed and our regular Monthly Supporters for your PayPal donations, and to johanv for keeping things ticking along on Flattr. Really, thanks guys :)
Linux Voice magazine recently published an article by Les Pounder about the demise of the Linux Outlaws podcast. A big thank you to Les, and the guys from LV, for featuring our humble show so prominently amongst the list of other podcasts that the reader might enjoy; and to Dan and Fab themselves, for their kind words on the last ever episode of Linux Outlaws.
Following Paddy’s speculation last show that Wikipedia’s
begathon fund-raising drive might
have more to do with feeding that organisations insatiable
thirst for growth rather than fulfilling a genuine need, Herg
got in touch to echo those sentiments from his position as a
former member of a Wikimedia chapter.
What would the Linux ecosystem look like if Debian were to wither and die? That was the question posed to us by SonOfNed, and I can’t help but feel that we didn’t spend long enough exploring the topic.
Brian, Steven Rosenberg and Moritz all got in touch following out interview with Ikey Doherty last show. Although very positive about Ikey’s work on Evolve OS and the Budgie Desktop, another theme to emerge from their comments was also reflected in a different context by FiftyOneFifty, who wondered why those building derivative distros – which isn’t the case with Ikey – insist on spinning their own full ISOs, rather than just providing the environment they want to give us via ‘theme packs’ or meta-packaging. A damn good question, and I feel we dodged around the frequent cause on the show.
1:34:12 2014 Predictions Revisited
We looked back at our predictions from last year, and found we’d managed a reasonable hit rate. But as for next year… well, that’s next show. And we’d like to hear your predictions too; so do drop us a line, or leave a comment below.
An open source alternative to BittorrentSync I’ve been testing out on my family is Syncthing (the original, not the Pulse fork from ind.ie). Over the last couple of weeks it has quite reliable, although a little hard on CPU (it runs at around 10% on the backup server’s single Celeron 1610 when polling and actually synching). The doc is sparse but it wasn’t too hard to figure out how to set up as a service on Fedora 21, and a load-on-login executable on Windows 7 (there was a package for setting it up as a service on the FreeBSD file server). On Windows I’ve got it running unobstrusively in the background, keeping the Documents and Desktop folders on several machines backed up to the file server.
Thanks for your comments Phil, good to some technical details into syncthing rather than the standard generic “this looks nice”. A roundup of linux sync clients (preferably FLOSS, but no roundup would be complete without BTsync) has been on the ideas board of topics for some time now so I feel this is going to happen sooner rather than later.
Another vote for Syncthing. I have been using it for several months to backup things from my laptop to a local server and my Linode. So far has been very reliable. The only feature it is missing for me is:
I have several large folders on my laptop e.g. Photos. They are the master repos and sync to a slave repo on my servers. I am running out of space on my laptop, so would like to be able to delete some photos without this deletion propagating to the slave repos.
However, this has already been suggested by several others and I think is on the list to be implemented.
Great to hear Jesse back in the mix, his absence last episode made it clear how much he brings to the show IMHO.
Joe is warming up to the recent versions of GNOME Shell, proof that even Linux Luddites are not absolutely closed minded. Nice to hear that the GNOME team are taking a step towards utility over fancy. If they keep it up, I’ll have to give GNOME Shell another look. Given their current trajectory, that would probably be around 2020 CE on my time-line :-)
I agree with Paddy’s prediction that some disruptive evolution is on the horizon for the concept of Desktop Distros. The Linux server space is driving hard towards the concept of a minimal core OS as a platform for ‘containerized’ subsystems and applications. It seems inevitable that this will eventually spill over into the Desktop arena. The big question in my mind is how long it will take to have a major impact the Desktop Distros. I’m thinking 3-5 years, but I’m of the Luddite perspective.
Except of course for Slackware. Slackware is a timeless classic.
Flattery will get you everywhere SonOfNed, many
I’ve actually pulled out the quote from #30 where Joe read out my reply regarding chromebooks being considered a win for linux on the desktop so now all my G+ notifications have Joe saying “yep, that’s why we got him on the podcast”. Gotta take the wins where you find them ;)
I’m running Fedora 21 Workstation, and I find GNOME 3.14 to be more responsive then the version in F20 (which I believe was GNOME 3.10). Responsive enough to use anyway. I really like the “dark” theming, which I think will appeal to Joe.
I have my Xfce side themed fairly darkly, but since 11 out of 12 themes for Xfce look like crap, it means a lot of mucking around in the .gtkrc-2.0 file to get many things to rener in the proper color.
Once things like Firefox and Thunderbird get GTK 3 compatibility, GNOME Shell will look that much better.
Hey guys – thanks for covering VirtKick in your podcast. Actually, we collected $22,091 when taking external contributions into account. So the first two goals (KVM and commercial features) are already founded, and we’re only $4,909 away from the third one (OpenVZ). We’ve got 18 hours to go. :-)
Hi Damian, I now understand the difference between total raised and total collected on your IndieGoGo – the pieces are falling into place. Congrats on an already successful funding campaign, the luddites wish you all the best in hitting your upcoming goals. Also it’s good to know that people doing interesting things in the industry listen to the show!
Keep in touch with how things go, maybe we could have you on the show for a chat about how you started, the reasons you began and where you see the future of hosting??
Hey Jesse, thanks for your good words! I sure can join you, it’ll be a pleasure. Please send me an e-mail and we’ll make it happen. Have a good one.
The concept of a read-only root file-system has been put to great use in some enterprise IT products. Typically there are two system partitions, image1 and image2, each of which can hold a different version of the OS. You update the inactive image to the new code, change to boot off the other image, and reboot. Makes for a very clean upgrade experience, and you have a built-in back-out plan: the former code is still on the other image and can be activated is something goes sideways.
Thanks for explaining this Nathan, it sounds very sensible. I’ve heard of something similar where there are two identical installs on matching hardware for hardware redundancy should something fail on the primary computer/install. However this way adds read-only security and instant roll-back.
Guys, thanks for trying Gnome 3. I knew you’d kinda, sorta not hate it.
Another great show. Great review of Fedora 21. Also enjoyed listening to your 2013 predictions for 2014.
Thanks Esteban, I’m not looking forward to having to make predictions for 2015!!
Podcast 31 says Mint 17.1 was not downloading properly. You guys then pondered why the site wasn’t more intelligent. I instead wondered why Linux Luddites did not take the opportunity to suggest everybody use the old, very good, existing tools and use Torrent. Torrent takes the stress off the Mint website. It also allows users to get the ISO faster than virtually any other way.
I usually leave the latest versions of the Mint and Manjaro ISOs on my machine. Typically my ratio for a distro is quite high. Though I have never gotten up to 1000x.
The application called “Transmission” is built into Mint. However most people prefer installing qBittorrent for the extra features…
I agree, and I also seed several Distributions (currently Arch, Manjaro, Debian, Ubuntu, Xubuntu, AV Linux, openSUSE, PCBSD).
For a long time I thought it was strange that Distros don’t promote torrents more heavily, but I think that a big downside is the difficulty in tracking numbers of downloads. There is great value in measuring this, and so I’ve come to the conclusion that this is part of the issue.
One thing I found particularly interesting from this episode was the discussion about Distributions which are scarcely more than a theme and adding a few packages. I’m sad to say (or glad, maybe?) that I’m not sure which distros you may have been referring to, here. Presumably, some of the random distro results from Distro Watch.
Anyway, one project came to mind during this discussion:
FalkTX does distribute an ISO, but as I understand it, his main focus is on augmenting Ubuntu/Debian with packages. Is this the kind of thing you would like to see more of?
If joe/jesse/paddy are interested in testing the Trinity
Desktop Environment R14.0.0, an easy way to do it is with
the following downloads.
Ubuntu 14.04 base: http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/cdimages/ubuntu/
Debian jessie base: http://exegnulinux.net/downloads/jessie/
These are live cd’s, just choose the the most recent iso.
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